My wife has a 2008 Stella with a Cozy sidecar. She uses it mostly for low speed around town driving. I would like to put a friction type damper on the steering column to lower the wobble that happens at 15-20 mph. I like the Silverline type but am having trouble finding info about it. Comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike
Looking for help. Checked out Side strider for steering damper hints. they recommended volkswagon steering damper standard. Whenever I’ve asked parts shops want make and model year. Also got the silverline type with my kit, doesn’t fit my VespaP200E. Requesting help from any sidecar people. Cheers.
You will find the damper you need at JC Whitney. Part# ZX882541W for a 61-78 VW Beetle or Karman Ghia. They also have a 3-piece chromed clamp that will fit on the sidecar strut. Check McMaster-Carr for tie rod ends you may need also. Depending on how you mount the damper to the scooter front end shock or tube in front of the shock. The tube is probably about 35 mm in dia. you can find motorcycle fork clamps that may work.
Currently, the Cozy sidecar will only work with a Vespa PX type scooter. This is because the Cosy, built in India, was made to work with the Stella - which is a true Vespa PX. Stella had agreements with Piaggio to build the Vespa PX in India, until Piaggio started building their own, again.
Hi, I bought a 2008 Stella last spring but had to order the sidecar several months later when they came back in stock. My plan was to take it back to the dealer and have them mount it. Then I was told by another scooter dealer (who doesn’t deal in Genuine Scooters) that it wouldn’t be stable unless a fabricated stabilizer was added. Is he just trying to steer me to his shop instead of the dealer or does he have a valid point? Has anyone had any trouble with their sidecars installed by their Genuine dealer?
Kathy, Your Stella with a sidecar will be stable, you may experience a little steering wobble at a specific slow speeds. If so, check out my comment on June 26 08. I have put this on my Stella and it took care of all the wobble. The Silverline stabilizer would require too trouble to make it work. One I talk about mounts on the front fork above the plastic brake cover(high enough so the mounting clamps will not be hit by the plastic when you compress the front end, hard braking or a pothole impact) and to the sidecar strut to the right and rearward, it will have a slight downward angle. Just be sure to check the full turn steering lock to lock to find the best place to mount both clamps (on the strut and front fork).
For years, had a Black and Gold Honda Elite 250cc with a black canvas and gold snap bicycle trailer. It was a first in the neighborhood thing. Very striking. Called the set up a Brass Wing.
I’m on this website because again I want to improvise. I’m long in the tooth and love the idea of a side car for a number of reasons. But on fixed income, so the $$$ thing.
I’m riding a Honda Shadow 700cc, so looking for light weight side car. Only want to side car my 25# dog. Side cars shown are so BIG!
Just brought a Diamond Deluxe Dog Box(R Style) http://www.diamonddeluxe.com and it is too disportionate in size to put on back of bike. Guess I’m one of those women that don’t measure so good. Therefore the side car idea.
Any suggestions or direction on how to make it into a side car myself using the KISS method??? Am I out of my mind for even thinking I can???
Your website/blog is a wealth of information. Now have the Harley Topper pic, tech info to set up the Cozy and the Meyer Aircraft under belly pic. An example of a similiar utility side car I’d like to do is there, but can’t find it to refer to LOL - it is here under/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/2002-03-hon… It’s using the aluminum diamond plating, except want it flat, platform style, instead of curving up for wind screen. Did find a full size single Kenna frame only. Too big and $$$.
Have idea of what I want now - The aluminum diamond platform to be 20″ wide and 48″ long. A pexiglass wind screen at front to deflect the wind, but still provide a view for the critter. 8″ from the front to the Dog Box housing which is 24″ and behind it 16″ for “luggage”. Is this a good configuration?
So looking for more info - Cozy wheels are 8″ & 10″ - but mine are 15″. Most pictures appear wheel size about the same. Light motorcycles have larger wheels (?) do they use different Cozy? Where is wheel positioned - as in Meyer Aircraft pic. it appears more to rear and others seem in middle.
I would think the wheel would need to “pivot or lean”" for turns. If trailer light weight, what about ballist? (sp?) Think I saw information about a part George made or had - think that is the thing that assists with wobble, turns and/or lean. Heading to his original website and doing some reading. Be back later, as I know there is more to learn here too. You are like Prego spaghetti sauce, It’s in there!
Thank George and you for picking up the gauntlet. A shout out to you for your commitment, time and efforts. I’m new to your blog, so didn’t vote, but think it is well organzied, informative and current.
Any suggestions on the how to build a small utility type side car and what factors to think about?? Am I on the right track??
Hi there, anyone got any thoughts on putting a damper on a px with a cozy, but being here in New Zealand, the sidecar is mounted on the left hand side. so cant attach to the fork/front shock. Any other methods people have used?
Thanks for the info on your site, great reference tool!
hello, i want to buy a 150 cc scooter here in utah ,, one of the new ones everyone is gettin for about 1000$ or online for about 650, and attach a side car to it .. a light weight one to cary my dog, or my backpack for hiking ( both my dog and the pack weigh about the same 50 pounds..) can anyone suggest a universal side car for this ? please give me advice , im on a tight budget and need to do this soon.
From Phnom Penh, Cambodia. I am intending to build a side car for my 1971 Vespa, loosely modeled on the Cozy. I have managed to garner enough info and related advise to develop a design. However I cannot see or haven’t been able to find information on the sidecar suspension mechanism one would use for a fitting to a Vespa. Is there one at all. Any advice would be appreciated. The Russian market here has ooo’s of honda cub and other small bike pieces and I am thinking I may fashion a small wheel in a swing arm and shocks from the rear of a bike to the sidecar. Any thoughts, comments.
I am interested in purchasing a Genuine Stella and putting a sidecar on-but, I am concerned that the Stella-at 150cc will not have much power-I live in a hilly area-and would like to be able to ride comfortably and not have the scoot labor—I am not exactly interested in a motorcycle-Royal Enfield or Ural with a sidecar-simply because I love scooters. Can anyone offer some information about the ride of a Stella with the sidecar—I would plan on putting my 6 year old in the sidecar for rides-she is say 50 points…how fast does it move… uphill, is there lag, how fast on a straightaway, etc. Experience? recommendations? Thank you.
Joe, I have a 2008 Stella with a sidecar (Scooterworks). On flat roads you can expect to make 45 to 50 MPH, with no one in the car, and a long run (at least 1/2 mile) with no head wind With some one in the car 35 to 45 is real good. It can go up hills but down-shifting to even first gear will be necessary. If you want to do anything other than flat 35 MPH roads you will need more power.
Has anyone ordered a sidecar direct from the manufacturer in India. Will they let you?
I find the price of the sidecars to be triple what I paid for my scooter! I can buy a Velorex with a Honda Magnum attached on ebay for $3400 - why is an Indian side car 3000?! Something’s off here.
I want to improve starting speed and low speed torque. 2008 Stella with 10″ Cosy sidecar. Thinking, Sito+, de-blue, jet change. Later possible clutch gearing change. I am not interested in top end speed, just use it around town. Want more “grunt”.
Hi guys - fabolous site! I am a novice but having travelled to the Ukraine and back last year with my wife on a couple of Honda c50s we are determined to take our large labrador this year. We are making him a sidecar from ply/fibreglass but have no idea how to attach it to the honda - a sgx50 and a sh50. Any suggestion or know of anyone who would fabricate something up?
Any help appreciated
Hi, does anyone have any set up information for a Lambretta with a Watsonian Bambini sidecar?
The Lambretta is a Series 1, 1959 and I believe the sidecar to be a 1956-58 model, I need toe in and lean in or out for the scooter, as I have bolted it on and it is terrible to ride!!!
As Mark asked, I am uncertain how to go about attaching a lightweight sidecar to my homemade scooter. I have a good plan on the construction of the sidecar itself, just not sure about attaching properly. BTW I just came across this resource, so if this info already exists, just point the way!
Can anyone please send me diagrams/instructions on how to build a zeppelin style sidecar for a motorcycle please, specifically the measurements etc for frame? the maths for the nose is proving to be a pain ! thanks
Are there “shows” were models are displayed? I want an electric scooter (utilitarian) NOT for “show”. Also want a sidecar for stability and shopping. 100 lb dog optional: only for local travel. I have a big van for long distance travel with my dogs. I am not a mechanic or fabricator AT ALL. Also want a plexiglass shield against the wind.
I am thinking about getting an electric scooter like the eco/ego 1400watt and fitting a side car so my wife could use it for the school run (approx 4mile round trip) for her and my son. So has any seen or made something that could be used. Could try to diy it but would definately benifit from hearing back from anyone who has built/bought and fitted one in the past. Don’t know the legal implications of fitting a side car and don’t know if it would kill the performance of the scooter so much as to make it unusable so please get intouch. Love the video of the folding tent I have a folding caravan (rapido exportmatic) and enjoy the engineering in such things.
Might I just say such a alleviation to find anyone who really knows what they are discussing on the internet. You actually find out how to bring a problem to light and make it necessary. Even more people should study it all and understand this side of the story. I can’t believe you’re not more popular because you definitely have the gift.
I’m an alpaca breeder who frequently takes one of my alpacas to the park. A few days ago I saw another breeder/owner driving a scooter with a side car, where their alpaca was sitting in the side car cushed. (laying on top of their feet like a cat) What kind of side car would I use for a 200 pound llama like animal to sit in? Where would I get/order something like that? What do you think it would end up costing?
Just bought a ‘barn find’ sidecar which i believe was made by Blacknell (judging by the shape of it). Its a ‘box’ sidecar and it is really great condition but the only issue i have with it is the vinyl covering has detactched from the rear panel exposing the wooden body. Does anyone know how difficult it is the repair this?
Hi, I am thinking about buying a scooter and sidecar to get around town with my kids.
I need to save some money on gas, and find that my minivan is not economical when driving my kids to and from school, play dates and sporting events. We live in a climate where I would be able to drive it year round. However we do live near some hills.
Any recommendations on a reliable & reasonable scooter?
Also, what engine size would I need to pull a sidecar, two kids and myself?
My kids weigh 100 & 80 pounds and I weigh 130.
I am trying to figure out if I would save more money on gas if I purchased and used a scooter. Or if I did not spend the money on a scooter and just stayed using my minivan.
Thank you in advance for your help,
hey i have found a california sidecar scooter car with a single swing arm, guessing its from the 80’s wanting to make sure they are safe with only one swing arm attachment bolting on the underside of the scooter. also seems hard to find any info on the “calfornia sidecar” scooter car except for you guys have posted. any reason for that. be nice to know there are still a few of them around and being used???
this car looks kool and is in great shape from what i see, the guy wants $1300 which is more than it costs new??? guess that means its vintage???
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I have a 1980 Vespa P200 with a Partner SideCar made by California SideCars. I know they are still in business but have long since discontinued the making of scooter sidecars. I’m looking for a copy of an instruction manual and any brochures or ads on the side car. I have seen a low res copy on this site of a brochure (hard to read) but was hoping to see a better quality/ higher res one. Also looking for set-up info on this sidecar if I can’t find an instruction manual to make sure it’s properly set-up.
hello i loved looking around at you site. I too have a passion for sidecars and scooters, you can checkout my companies website a kelticsidecars.com we aim at the 50cc market but have mounted them on scooters up to 600cc. Our new tubs are going to be made out of 1/4 inch abs plastic but we will keep the fiberglass models as well. thankyou very much john barron at keltic sidecars
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I have a 2007 Vespa 150 LX with a Cozy Euro side car. I have extreme
steering wobble at 5 to 15 mph. Have been advised that the friction type and shock absorber (looks like screen door closer) type will not work on a later model Vespa. Is this true. If so is there another type that will work?